Merseyside Quiz Leagues

 

Council and Annual General Meetings


MQL MEETINGS 2021-2022


COUNCIL

Sun 19th September 2021 (online)

Thu 28th October 2021 (interim Progress meeting) (online)

Sun 12th December 2021 (online)

Sun 2nd January 2022 (interim Progress meeting)(online)

Sun 23rd January 2022 (interim Progress meeting)(online) 

Sun 27th March 2022 (online) 

Sun 26th June 2022 (online)

AGM

Sun 10th April 2022 (online)

All online meetings commence at 7.30 pm

All face to face meetings held at Old Swan Club, commencing at 8.00 pm


MQL MEETINGS 2022-2023


COUNCIL

Sun 11th September 2022 (online)

Sun 11th December 2022 (online)

Sun 26th March 2023 (online) 

Sun 25th June 2023 (online)

AGM

Sun 16th April 2023 (online)

All online meetings commence at 7.30 pm

All face to face meetings held at Old Swan Club, commencing at 8.00 pm


AGENDA FOR most recent/next mEETING


Agenda for the Annual General Meeting of the Merseyside Quiz Leagues to be held online
on Sunday 10th April 2022 at 7:30 pm


1        Apologies for Absence
2        Minutes of the previous AGM
3        Matters Arising
4        Deputy Chairman’s Report
5        General Secretary’s Report
6        Treasurer’s Report
7        Assistant General Secretary’s Report
8        Election of Officers
All current officers have indicated that they are willing to continue.  There have been two nominations for the post of Chairman.
Danny Grimes, Liverpool League, 
proposed by Derek Moody and seconded by Cliff Houghton.
Dave Trent, Wirral League, 
proposed by Jon Stitcher and as yet unseconded.
9        Proposals
        Three proposals have been received
I        Proposed by General Secretary, Brian Thompson.  
Seconded by MCC Secretary Bill Thomas
Firstly Rule 3 needs slight clarification 
from
A Council shall be appointed annually consisting of the following members: Chairman, Deputy Chairman, General Secretary, Assistant General Secretary and Treasurer, together with one Council member from each constituent league plus a further member for each of ten teams within the constituent league.
to
A Council shall be appointed annually consisting of the following members: Chairman, Deputy Chairman, General Secretary, Assistant General Secretary and Treasurer, together with one Council member from each constituent league plus a further member for each of ten teams or part thereof within the constituent league.
Then clarification of Voting at Council and Annual General Meetings
The Council (as of April 2022) consists of 22 votes by persons who must be present.  These are
•    5 officers (Chair, Dept Chair, Gen Sec, Asst Gen Sec, Treasurer)
•    5 Area Secretaries (or their appointed representative)
A person for each of ten teams or part thereof within the constituent leagues. 
•    3 Liverpool 27 teams
•    2 Ormskirk 17 teams
•    2 Southport & Formby 15 teams
•    2 Warrington 13 teams
•    3 Wirral 21 teams
•    A person cannot vote twice, for example the three Ormskirk votes have to be made by three different people. 
•    No voting by proxy.
AGM for the Election of the Chairman
•    Every team represented at the meeting has one vote.  
•    President has the casting vote if necessary.
AGM thereafter
•    5 officers (Chair, Dept Chair, Gen Sec, Asst Gen Sec, Treasurer).
•    Every team represented at the meeting has one vote.  
•    A person cannot vote twice, for example an officer cannot vote on behalf of their team as well as their post.
•    No voting by proxy.
II        Proposed by David Hodgson of Rugby Hounds
Seconded by Dag Griffiths of Wings
•    Rule 3 Add.  The President should be a member of Council
•    Rule 8 insert 'when held in person or 7.30 pm when held online, with an allowance of half an hour in each case'. Hence delete (..........)
•    Add.  The MQL Council will organise competitions for individuals, registered teams and representative teams between constituent leagues. Matches will take place on Wednesday nights according to a schedule provided at the start of the season. MQL will provide questions or arrange for their provision.
III        Proposed by Derek Moody of Bull’s Head
Seconded by Colin Foster of Hatton Coterie
•    Add.  No MQL member should use the MQL name and or resources, in any form to further personal interests.

minutes of most recent council meeting


Minutes of the Council meeting of the Merseyside Quiz Leagues held online 
on Sunday 27th March 2022 at 7.30pm

1.    In Attendance: were Jim McGrath, Bill Thomas, Angela Doyle, Dag Griffiths, Cliff Houghton, Dave Tilley, Derek Moody, David Hodgson, Jim Eccleson, Pam Baker, Danny Grimes, Paul Davitt, Steve Lomas and Brian Thompson 

Apologies: Angela Houghton, Bill Morris, Colin Foster, Jon Stitcher, Peter Deakin, Frances Mason
 
2.    Minutes of previous meeting:  These were accepted as a true record of the meeting. 

3.    Matters Arising:  There were no matters arising

4.    Deputy Chairman’s report: The Deputy Chairman, Cliff Houghton, asked for a moment’s silence for the late Chairman, Frank McFarlane.

5.    General Secretary’s report:  The General Secretary, Brian Thompson, reported that Frank’s funeral last Thursday was very well attended and that several members of MQL were present.  The Website having been out of action for over a fortnight was now fully functioning and was being hosted by a new provider.  Brian expressed everyone’s thanks to Chris Quinn for all of his hard work in sorting out the problems and managing the transfer of the content.  A new Obituaries page had been created on the website to honour those who had made a valuable contribution to the MQL over the years.  Those who had contributed were thanked but there were still some gaps especially amongst the early officers.  It was hoped to soon add a page celebrating appearances by members of the MQL in external competitions such as national and international championships and TV and radio programmes.  The Merseyside Challenge Cup had been played online and has reached the final stage.  There had been 16 teams involved and congratulations to Unison and Hatton Yarboury on reaching the Cup final and Oxton and Ringers on reaching the Plate final.  Sadly, one team had had to be disqualified for a breach of the player eligibility rules.

6.    Treasurer’s report: Treasurer, Dag Griffiths, reported that there had been little activity and that the balance stood at £2031.46.  When asked, he suggested that the annual subscription fee should remain once again at £25 as there had been no major expenditure on events this year.

7.    Assistant General Secretary’s report: Assistant General Secretary, Cliff Houghton, reported that all was continuing smoothly with question distribution.

8.    Area reports:
Liverpool
Liverpool Secretary, Paul Davitt, reported that Cricketers had won Division One, Groundhogs Division Two and St Francis of Assisi Division Three.  27 teams from Liverpool and Wirral had applied to play in the Riley Cup which begins on the 25 April with finals on 30 May.

Ormskirk
Ormskirk Secretary, David Hodgson, reported that their league finishes this week.  Unison have won the First Division and Squigglers, the second.  A knockout competition begins on 4 April for three weeks.

Southport and Formby
S&F Secretary, Dag Griffiths, reported the sad death of Dermott Williams of Exams, a fine player and one who was exemplary in his setting and vetting responsibilities.  Dag also reported that Casablanca had won Division One and Quads Division Two. They are halfway through a handicap competition and would be playing their Mimir face to face on 20 April.

Warrington
Warrington Secretary, Derek Moody, reported that with two weeks to go Hatton Coterie had won Division One but Division Two was still to be decided. They will play their Mimir face to face on Tuesday 19 April.

Wirral
Wirral Secretary, Jim Eccleson, reported that with three weeks to go both Division One and Division Two were yet to be decided. They will be holding their Mimir face to face on Wednesday 20 April.


9.    Remainder of the 2021-22 Season 
After some discussion it was agreed to cancel the 2022 Feeny and Rendon Cup competitions but with a view to them being played once again next year at the end of what we hope will be a conventional season.  With the MCC, Plate and Mimir finals all being played online the 2022 Presentation Evening was also cancelled.  This also fitted in with ongoing COVID considerations.
It was agreed that the Merseyside Mimir will be played to a conclusion over 2 evenings on Wednesday 27 April (Round 1, Heats 1 and 2) and Wednesday 4 May (Quarter, Semi and Final).
It was pointed out that the questions would need to be with the General Secretary earlier than originally planned, so 17 April (Easter Sunday) would be the deadline.

10.    Website
This had been covered in the General Secretary’s report.

11.    Items for the AGM
There had been three proposals.  These were discussed, amended as necessary and are now as follows;

I  From General Secretary, Brian Thompson
Seconded by MCC Secretary Bill Thomas
Clarification of voting at Council and AGM

Council (as of April 2022)
Consists of 22 votes by persons who must be present.
•    5 officers (Chair, Dept Chair, Gen Sec, Asst Gen Sec, Treasurer)
•    5 Area Secretaries (or their appointed representative)
A person for each of ten teams or part thereof within the constituent leagues. 
•    3 Liverpool 27 teams
•    2 Ormskirk 17 teams
•    2 Southport & Formby 15 teams
•    2 Warrington 13 teams
•    3 Wirral 21 teams

One person cannot vote twice, for example the three Ormskirk votes have to be made by three different people. 
No voting by proxy.

AGM 
For the Election of the Chairman
•    Every team represented at the meeting has one vote.  
•    President has the casting vote if necessary.

AGM thereafter
•    5 officers (Chair, Dept Chair, Gen Sec, Asst Gen Sec, Treasurer)
•    Every team represented at the meeting has one vote.  
•    A person cannot vote twice, for example an officer cannot vote on behalf of their team as well as their post.
•    No voting by proxy.

During the discussion it was also pointed out that the clarification that had been added to MQL Rule 3 should also be ratified by the AGM.  Namely the italicised part shown.

A Council shall be appointed annually consisting of the following members: Chairman, Deputy Chairman, General Secretary, Assistant General Secretary and Treasurer, together with one Council member from each constituent league plus a further member for each of ten teams or part thereof within the constituent league.

II  From David Hodgson of Rugby Hounds
Seconded by Dag Griffiths of Wings
Change of Rules
•  Rule 3 The President should be a member of Council.

Clarification of Rules
•  Rule 8 Insert 'when held in person or 7.30 pm when held online, with an allowance of half an hour in each case'. Hence delete what current appears in brackets
•  Add The MQL Council will organise competitions for individuals, registered teams and representative teams between constituent leagues. Matches will take place on Wednesday nights according to a schedule provided at the start of the season. MQL will provide questions or arrange for their provision.

III  From Derek Moody of Bull’s Head
Seconded by Colin Foster of Hatton Coterie
Addition to Rules
•  No MQL member should use the MQL name and / or resources, in any form to further personal interests.

Derek was asked about the thinking behind the proposal, and he explained that no work undertaken by any member of the MQL should be able to be used by another for profit, for example publishing a quiz book using MQL questions.

The Local Area Secretaries would undertake to get AGM notification out to their teams.  This would be available before midnight.

(An additional item about amending rule 24 on start times for online competitions was held over until the next Council Meeting).

Election of a new Chairman
Two nominations had been received
Danny Grimes (Liverpool).  Proposed by Derek Moody (Warrington), seconded by Cliff Houghton (Warrington)
Dave Trent (Wirral).  Proposed by Jon Stitcher (Wirral), as yet unseconded.

The nominees do not have to make any statements at the AGM (although Danny Grimes later said that he would be prepared to do so if required)

12.    AOB
The last two years had indicated quite clearly that there is an appetite for online team quizzing.  The General Secretary sought the approval of the Council to investigate the possibility of creating an online MQL to operate in parallel with the existing Leagues.  He explained that despite many attempts to encourage recruitment over recent years, none had really been successful and especially in reaching younger players. This online version while not exclusively aimed at younger players could be made more appealing in its content.  The ultimate aim would be to have some crossover between this new league and the existing MQL in order to hopefully rejuvenate the membership.
The Council gave the idea its blessing.  A report would be made at the next meeting.


The meeting closed at about 8.30pm.  

Next Council meeting:      Sunday 26 June 2022 at 7.30pm online (this was a change to the published date)
 


minutes of most recent AGM


Minutes of the Annual General Meeting of the Merseyside Quiz Leagues held online on Sunday 10th April 2022 (commenced at 7.30pm)

 

Attendees: Cliff Houghton, Angela Doyle, Angela Houghton, Derek Moody, Bill Thomas, Brian Bates, David Hodgson, Dag Griffiths, Jon Stitcher, Jim Eccleson, Jim McGrath, Frances Mason, Paul Davitt, Steve Lomas, Pam Baker, Danny Grimes and Brian Thompson representing thirteen teams and all five areas.

1. Apologies for absence.  Bill Morris, Colin Foster

2. The minutes of the previous AGM.  The minutes, having been circulated to all teams, were accepted as a true and fair record of the meeting.

3. Matters Arising.  There were no matters arising not covered by the Agenda.
 

4. Deputy Chairman’s Report.  Deputy Chairman, Cliff Houghton, asked for a moment’s silence for the following members and associates of the MQL who had passed away in the last year.

Bob Thurlow, Philip Gray, Bob Wilkie, Frank McFarlane, Steve Murphy, Margaret Copplestone, Frank Gracie, Dermott Williams and Brian Glover

He reported that the Leagues had returned to some sort of normality and that a large number of regular activities had or were about to happen.  He thanked all Officers and members of the Council for their part in making this happen.

5. General Secretary’s Report. 

All the events of the past year have been overshadowed by the deaths of two long-standing members of the MQL. Firstly, in December we lost Bob Wilkie who had been a member of the Leagues since the mid-1970s and a member of the Council for almost all that time.  He only recently stood down from his role as question distributor, a task that he had carried out for over 40 years.

In the week that Bob passed away, our Chairman, Frank McFarlane was taken seriously ill and despite fighting hard for two months he died in February. At 16 years, Frank was to date the longest serving Chairman of the MQL. An incredibly determined individual in many different spheres of activity who never let his disability prevent him from becoming involved or making an impact. I, and I am sure Cliff before me, always appreciated his wise and steady advice. They will both be greatly missed.

At the time of the last AGM, we were still in partial lockdown. The online quiz leagues in Southport and in Ormskirk were drawing to a close, although MQLOnline would operate into late June.  Congratulations here perhaps to the Ringers team from Warrington who won all three seasons of MQLOnline.

Although most of the 2020-21 league season was cancelled, we introduced the Merseyside Online Challenge to replace the Merseyside Challenge Cup, and this was won by Unison. The Merseyside Individual Challenge replaced the Mimir Competition, and this was won in May by Pat Gibson.

After waiting in vain to play the matches face-to-face, the finals of the 2019-2020 Merseyside Challenge Cup, Plate and Mimir were completed online and won by Colly Wobblers, Oxton Cons and Karl Whelan respectively.

Season 2021-22

With Covid conditions still uncertain, we delayed the start of the 2021-2022 season until October.  We were pleased to report that although not all teams returned, the number of teams dropping out was much smaller than was first feared.  The season began with 92 teams, the first time in over 50 years that the number of teams was less than 100. This was 12 teams fewer than had begun the season in 2019. Again, due to Covid, we decided to take a three week break in the period after Christmas and as a result although some leagues have finished others are now nearing their final stages. 

· The President’s Shield, the Feeny Cup, the Rendon Cup and the newly inaugurated Pairs competition were all postponed again. However, the President’s Trophy was played online for a second season, but that didn’t bother Ormskirk who won for the 4th successive year, with Warrington in second place. Many thanks to Dag Griffiths for taking care of this competition and to each of the areas for setting the questions.

· The Merseyside Challenge Cup returned after a one-year Covid break and was played online. 16 teams entered indicating the continued lack of interest in what is the MQL’s premiere competition. It was decided to play it as a straight knockout with an associated Plate tournament. Congratulations to Unison who defeated Hatton Yarbourie to win the Cup and to Ringers who beat Oxton in a very close Plate final. Unfortunately, one team was disqualified for fielding an ineligible player. Many thanks to Bill Thomas for administering the Competition and to Dave Tilley for once again providing excellent sets that produced some very close matches.

· The 2022 Mimir competition will get under way in the week after next when each area has decided to play its local heats face-to-face. The Merseyside Competition will be played to a conclusion, online over two nights in subsequent weeks.

· The Merseyside Diamond Jubilee Buzzer Quiz Tournament was played at Saint Peter’s Church Centre in Woolton back in October. The competition, managed by Jon Stitcher, attracted 20 teams from all round the country and was won by Team Northeast with Wirral beating Lincolnshire in their final to win the Plate. Questions were set by an MQL team of 5 writers directed by Dan Lawson. Special thanks to Dan, who is only an occasional MQL player but who wrote more than his fair share of the questions and travelled up from Cambridge to QP on the day. Having taken all possible measures in terms of Covid safety we were informed of a number of NHS pings, thankfully all of which proved negative and of one person who tested positive. We were notified about the latter 11 days after the event.

The MQL website and those of some other areas went down for scheduled maintenance in February but subsequently failed to resume. In spite of his continued efforts to correct the issue, in the end Chris Quinn found a new provider and successfully migrated all our content over. The very few enquiries received about the non-availability of the website is perhaps an indication of how few people access it!

Looking to the future, there are four tasks that are currently being undertaken.

· As mentioned at the recent Council meeting, the feasibility of creating a parallel Online Quiz League is being investigated. Any views or comments to me will be gratefully received.

· The inevitable complaints and grumbles about the balance, content and consistency of our sets are ongoing. In comparison to the number of teams who play each week the number of grumbles is proportionally few. Does this mean that relatively few teams have problems with the sets or perhaps that a lot of teams accept the sets as they are and are happy for a quiz to drop through the letterbox once a week for a pleasant night out in the pub. Nonetheless a summary of the current situation with some suggestions for the future is currently being written and will be presented to Council in June.

· A project to create an MQL Obituary page on the MQL website is also underway.  It was felt that there needs to be some recognition of people who have been key in the history of MQL as it was appreciated that all cannot be remembered in the dedications of trophies or the naming of competitions. I hope that anyone who can contribute information to this will get in touch with me.

· Finally, a project to recognise the achievements of MQL players beyond Merseyside in radio, TV, national and international competitions is also planned.

The latter will hopefully include Karl Whelan, who back in November succeeded Graham Barker as BBC Radio 4 Brain of Britain champion.

My thanks, as always, go to fellow Council members and to everyone who contributes to the organisation of the MQL.

The current Vice-Presidents are
Brian Bates Angela Houghton Ray Oakes Brian Cunningham Cliff Houghton Bill Thomas Peter Deakin Dag Griffiths Jim McGrath John Wilson

6. Treasurer’s Report.  Treasurer, Dag Griffiths, presented a financial statement for the season 2021-22.  Due to the strange nature of last season, some outgoings were yet to be made and some indeed would not be needed.  He reported a good financial situation and proposed that no increase to the £25 MQL subs was needed.  The statement had been audited by one of the auditors so far.

Auditors (appointed):                     Paul Davitt and David Hodgson.

7. Assistant General Secretary’s Report.  Assistant General Secretary, Cliff Houghton, reported that he had been joined in his responsibility for question distribution by Frances Mason.  Both said that the process was going smoothly with a few initial teething problems but that most problems were due to the Royal Mail.  He also added that it was the intention to resume anonymisation of sets for next season.  He explained this had not been possible for the current season due to the uncertainty regarding the starting date.

8. Election of Officers.  President, Angela Doyle took the chair for the election of the Chairman.  No other nominations having been received she proposed that Danny Grimes be the new Chairman.  This was carried unanimously.  Danny took the chair and proposed that in the absence of any notified changes the Officers be re-appointed en bloc. This was carried unanimously.

9. Proposals

The following proposals had been received

Proposed by General Secretary, Brian Thompson. 

Seconded by MCC Secretary Bill Thomas

Rule 3 from

A Council shall be appointed annually consisting of the following members: Chairman, Deputy Chairman, General Secretary, Assistant General Secretary and Treasurer, together with one Council member from each constituent league plus a further member for each of ten teams within the constituent league.

to

A Council shall be appointed annually consisting of the following members: Chairman, Deputy Chairman, General Secretary, Assistant General Secretary and Treasurer, together with one Council member from each constituent league plus a further member for each of ten teams or part thereof within the constituent league.

 

Proposed by David Hodgson of Rugby Hounds

Seconded by Dag Griffiths of Wings

Rule 3 Add.  The President and Question Distributors should be ex-officio members of Council

Rule 8 from.

All meetings to start at 8.00 p.m. (and no later than 8.30 p.m.) and should last no more than ninety minutes.

to

All meetings to start at 8.00 pm when held in person or 7.30 pm when held online, with an allowance of half an hour in each case and should last no more than ninety minutes.

Add.  The MQL Council will organise competitions for individuals, registered teams and representative teams between constituent leagues. Matches will take place on Wednesday nights according to a schedule provided at the start of the season. MQL will provide questions or arrange for their provision.

Each of the above proposals was accepted and passed unanimously.          

Proposed by Derek Moody of Bull’s Head

Seconded by Colin Foster of Hatton Coterie

Add.  No MQL member should use the MQL name and or resources, in any form to further personal interests.  MQL material that is placed in the public domain should carry the request that if used for any purpose then the MQL should be credited.          

The proposal was accepted and passed unanimously.

This then allowed clarification of Voting at Council and Annual General Meetings.  This was not an addition or alteration to MQL Rules but will be posted online as part of MQL Administration.

Council

The Council (as of April 2022) consists of 25 votes by persons who must be present.  These are

5 Elected Officers (Chair, Dept Chair, Gen Sec, Asst Gen Sec, Treasurer).

3 ex-officio members (President, two Question Distributors)

5 Area Secretaries (or their appointed representative)

Plus, a person for each of ten teams or part thereof within the constituent leagues, which is currently.

3 Liverpool 27 teams

2 Ormskirk 17 teams

2 Southport & Formby 15 teams

2 Warrington 13 teams

3 Wirral 21 teams

A person cannot vote twice, for example the three Ormskirk votes have to be made by three different people.  No voting by proxy.

AGM for the Election of the Chairman

Every team represented at the meeting has one vote. 

President has the casting vote if necessary.

AGM thereafter

5 Elected Officers (Chair, Dept Chair, Gen Sec, Asst Gen Sec, Treasurer).

3 ex-officio members (President, two Question Distributors)

Every team represented at the meeting has one vote. 

A person cannot vote twice, for example an officer cannot vote on behalf of their team as well as their post.  No voting by proxy.

Therefore, the current (April 2022) Council comprises the following Elected and Ex Officio members:

Chairman:                                       Danny Grimes                   

Deputy Chairman:                           Cliff Houghton  
General Secretary:                           Brian Thompson              
Treasurer:                                       Dag Griffiths                                      

Deputy General Secretary:                Cliff Houghton  

Ex officio members are:

President:                                       Angela Doyle

Question Distributor:                      Cliff Houghton

Question Distributor:                      Frances Mason

The date for the 2023 AGM is Sunday 16th April.  The dates for the four required Council Meetings for the new season are

Sunday 11 September 2022

Sunday 11 December 2022

Sunday 26 March 2023

Sunday 25 June 2023

The Chairman thanked everyone for their attendance and their support.  The meeting closed at 8.15pm.


VOTING AT COUNCIL AND ANNUAL GENERAL MEETINGS


Council

The Council (as of April 2022) consists of 25 votes by persons who must be present.  These are

• 5 Elected Officers (Chair, Dept Chair, Gen Sec, Asst Gen Sec, Treasurer).

• 3 ex-officio members (President, two Question Distributors)

• 5 Area Secretaries (or their appointed representative)

Plus, a person for each of ten teams or part thereof within the constituent leagues, which is currently.

• 3 Liverpool (which has 27 teams)

• 2 Ormskirk (which has 17 teams)

• 2 Southport & Formby (which has 15 teams)

• 2 Warrington (which has 13 teams)

• 3 Wirral (which has 21 teams)

A person cannot vote twice, for example the three Ormskirk votes have to be made by three different people.  No voting by proxy.

AGM for the Election of the Chairman

• Every team represented at the meeting has one vote. 

• President has the casting vote if necessary.

AGM thereafter

• 5 Elected Officers (Chair, Dept Chair, Gen Sec, Asst Gen Sec, Treasurer).

• 3 ex-officio members (President, two Question Distributors)

• Every team represented at the meeting has one vote. 

A person cannot vote twice, for example an officer cannot vote on behalf of their team as well as their post.  No voting by proxy.

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